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gabz
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Marsha Putnam, President of Sleepy Hollow trail association, spoke of this during the Feb 28th meeting.

 

They need Equestrians to speak up about using this trail, while it is in the planning stages.

 

There is a meeting March 11; don't know where.

Then, there are public meetings as follows:

 

41 Miles from Owosso to Ionia

Clinton-Ionia-Shiawasee (CIS)

MDNR Master Plan Public Input Meetings
 
 W/ Barbara Nelson-Jameson
National Park Service Planner
 

MULTI-USER COMMENTS TO BE USED

FOR THE Clinton-Ionia-Shiawasee (CIS) DEVELOPMENT PLAN DUE JUNE 2009
 

CONTACT   ANNAMARIE BAUER 517-335-5708   bauera1@michigan.gov

 

*MDNR OPEN HOUSES
 MARCH 23, 2009      SHIAWASSEE COUNTY   4-7 PM
SURBECK BUILDING
201 N. SHIAWASSEE ST.
CORUNNA, MI

 

MARCH 24, 2009     CLINTON COUNTY     4-7 PM
CLINTON BD. MEETING ROOM
CLINTON CO. COURTHOUSE   PARKING AT REAR
ST. JOHNS, MI
 

MARCH 25, 2009    IONIA COUNTY & FRIENDS OF CIS  7 PM
COMMISSION ON AGING BUILDING
115 HUDSON ST.
IONIA, MI

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March 10, 2009 at 6:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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Posts: 58

Marsha wrote to me, that the regular Bd. meeting would be at the

Owosso  House of Wheels on Wed. at 7:00 pm. .. So that would be March 11.  hope that helps. 


March 10, 2009 at 7:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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I attended the meeting on March 11 with Marsha Putnam .  This was a Board meeting.  The board  to put it mildly didn't seem to friendly to have Equestirans represented.  If you want  the (CIS)rail trail to include Equestrians ,  be sure to attend one of these meetings and voice your support. 

March 12, 2009 at 7:57 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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Just a Reminder for those who are interested in the

Clinton-Ionia-Shiawassee Rail TRail (CIS)  Tonight is the first of three meetings being held for this  Multi user trail.  We need equestrians to speak up at these meetings so the park planner will know we want horses included.  For the times , dates and Locations see the first message at the top of this thread.

March 23, 2009 at 9:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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Posts: 58

Update:  I just learned that the location for tonights meeting will be at the

James P Capitan Center

149 East Corunna Ave, Corunna Mi

March 23, 2009 at 9:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

gabz
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Posts: 91

Thanks Mike.  I posted this on the Horse Connection Board; I see that Therese posted it on MTRA.

March 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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Posts: 58

I attended Monday nights meeting in Corunna and was very please as to the turn out of horsemen and women who attended.  In my estimation it was 80 percent  to 20 in the horses corner.  We need that kind of turn out for the meetings Tuesday and Wednesday  in

St Johns and Ionia. The point was made that horsemen want to use this trail.  Call and email your friends and try and get them out to these meetings to provide their imput.  That's what grass roots is all about.


March 23, 2009 at 11:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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Tonight, Wednesday March 25th is the 3rd and final night the DNR is holding Public Meetings for  comment on the Clinton-Ionia-Shiawassee Rail trail.  The Tuesday night meeting was well attended by the horse community.  

Tonights meeting will be held in Ionia at

The Commission on Aging Building

115 Hudson  Street

Ionia , Michigan   7PM  

Show up and let them know horsemen want to be included on this trail .

March 25, 2009 at 7:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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I was not able to make it to the wednesday night meeting for the CIS rail trail  . I spoke to Marsha today (Saturday) and she told me that she thought 80% of the people in attendance at Ionia  where horsemen.  Unfortunately the format for the meeting did not allow  them to be heard.  On the positive side  Barbra-Nelson -Jameson ,The national Parks Planner told Marsha that the Horsemen where heard loud and clear.  So hopefully Horses will be included on the CIS. Marsha is on a very busy Schedule and  I am hoping that  she is  able to log in and do a better update on this.  From my understanding the information they have received will go to committees to be used in planning the usage for the rail trail.  

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March 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

gabz
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There is an email address for people to use to submit comments about the CIS Rail-to-Trails.

 

DNR-RTS@michigan.gov

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March 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Mike S
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I just received the following email from Marsha on the CIS Meetings  to share:_____________________________________________-

Report on Mar. 23 & 24 DNR Open Houses and Mar 25 Friends of FM CIS Annual meeting
 
1.Many equestrians came to both open houses where their comments were written down by DNR & National Park Planning members. At least 70% of those who came were equestrians outnumbering all other users. I feel that facilitators were shocked by this turnout. I persuaded Tom Tyler, Tom's Western Store to attend and his comments about economic impact were listened to.  The Planner for Clinton Co/Tri County Governing Bd. admitted  he did not know there was a tack store in the area!  The Friends Group  had their eyes opened. I am very pleased that if you were there and spoke to these planners, your time was well spent. These comments will be compiled & assessed into the use design and development of the trail. 
 
  2.  If you did not get to these meetings , they did a list of names but did not write names w/comment.YOU CAN STILL MAKE COMMENTS  REGARDING THIS RAIL TRAIL PROJECT.  THE DNR RETURNED TUES. WITH AN EMAIL  CONTACT.  (Maybe when I told them I had 76 emails last week it had an impact.)  Please make a comment , add something you forgot last week, ADD YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.  Include ZIPCODE
 They had a green questionnaire sheet (I could not get extras to mail to some of you)  They wanted to know your uses of trail, activities, services trail should provide(they now know "horse parking" means hitching rail, pickett poles) manure management, TRAIL SURFACE-asphalt-crushed limestone-unimproved,distance bet. , trail heads, access to town/water/bathroom, how far you would ride, saftey, parallel seperate or on top, conflict with other users. and how far you'd drive to use trail.
 
     Send Project comments for the  Clinton-Ionia- Shiawassee Rail Trail:  DNR-RTS@michigan.gov
 
    Planning process information will soon be available at: http://www.michigan.gov/dnr
 
3. Wed. CIS  meeting was run entirely different since it was their annual meeting. The hall was standing room only, mostly equestrains and the air tense. Barbara Nelson-Jameson, Planner  was the main speaker.  She said the most encouraging words-"Horse people we have heard you" . she presented a power point pesentation and took a few questions.  Nancy Klurazar(sp)Executive Director of Mi Greenways Alliance also spoke.  She did a power point  that had one picture w/horses. She said, she did not know how many railtrails there were in Mi and how many were horse accessable. she stated that all the trails she knew about had a fence, greenbelt,or  space between  horses and other users for saftey reasons. Several attempted to correct her. She took only a few questions.  Carolyn Kayne(sp)from the Hartland trail(Alma to Greenville) was there and that rail trail has JUST purchased the 16 mile Rail trail from Lowell to Ionia to hook up with their newly purchased 22 miles from Lowell to Greenville.  Guess what-There will be NO HORSES THERE!!!   So our CIS  horse milage becomes more important.
 The nonimees for Bd.were not allowed to be introduced, no ballots were given out-unless you produced evidence of paid 2008 membership. No challange to change their bylaws could be mounted. Only 5 people were allowed to speak -3min each. during public comment. I did find out using  "FOIA" orally, what the vote count was. I had 12 votes compared to the incumbent, Adelle Rogers' 47.That was out of aprox. 150 ballots. I thank those who did vote for me, but relieved in a way not to join them and have to sign that code of conduct. This way I can continue to speak about CIs with out written Bd. approval.  
 
4.The evenings HIGHLIGHT came as our group was leaving, Barbara Nelson- Jameson left whom she was speaking with and approched us. "Great Job getting organized and getting the horse people out and involved. Stay involved."  I take that as a very positive sign for equestrian support. Please, send in your comments.
 
5. Post this on to your groups, we must not stop here. We've shown our hand, we must stay aware of the process as this plan develops because more stakeholder meetings will review the draft plan, and its alternatives(I'm sure they-other users- will strongly oppose horses) and then the process for the final plan. A suggested timeline for this 1st stage if by summer 09, draft and final early 2010, implement development 2010-2011. Do not give up, we have made a significant changing in the planning process. Thurs. I was apart of the Greenways Summit Planning for Clinton County, that group seemed very favorable and open to horses.
 
6.Check your email address and that of friends, I get a whole bunch back. GRRRRRR!  
 
Marsha Putnam
7455 Riley Rd.
Elsie, MI 48831
989-661-2541 H   989-277-8544 C
March 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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